10:11:05 <maxandersen> #startmeeting
10:11:10 <jbott> Meeting started Thu Feb 17 10:11:05 2011 UTC.  The chair is maxandersen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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10:11:25 <maxandersen> brb - phone ..damn it ;)
10:12:36 <maxandersen> let me know if any specific questions/concerns - ill brb
10:13:57 <maxandersen> akazakov: Daniel_Azarov: scabanovich: awake ? :)
10:14:27 <akazakov> maxandersen: yes
10:14:31 <akazakov> hi
10:15:54 <scabanovich> maxandersen, hello
10:16:04 <maxandersen> I actually don't have much today - deep in planning face2face meeting and finishing of loose ends on GA
10:16:19 <maxandersen> you guys have anything specific - if not  we'll just have a short one today ;)
10:16:29 <maxandersen> well actually…there is one subject
10:16:47 <maxandersen> #topic relocation to US - what does that mean team/sync wise
10:17:39 <maxandersen> you guys are flying out when - over the weekend ?
10:17:54 <akazakov> yes. this Saturday.
10:18:19 <akazakov> and btw next Monday is a holiday in the USA
10:18:49 <akazakov> so we have to change time of our sync chat..
10:19:31 <maxandersen> next thursday you mean or ?
10:19:36 <akazakov> yes
10:19:53 <maxandersen> hey - whats wrong with being up at 3 AM doing an irc chat ? :)
10:20:03 <maxandersen> but yeah ...
10:20:52 <maxandersen> once you guys settle in and find out where you can get network access, is over jetlag etc. I guess is the best time to settle on a time ?
10:21:14 <maxandersen> and since you move over to dgolovin he can join in too.
10:21:36 <maxandersen> #info moscow team is moving this saturday (20th february) to US - sync time needs changing
10:22:05 <akazakov> i'm afraid 3 am it might be a good time for first weeks because of time zone changing ;) But seriously I think it's a good idea to chat with Denis too.
10:22:15 <maxandersen> #action akazakov figure out best time for the California team to sync up with Europe ;)
10:22:28 <akazakov> ok :)
10:23:08 <maxandersen> so with this timezone change I can't have all of my chats on one day anymore - or at least not at same day as devstudio syncup ;(
10:23:45 <maxandersen> for me 16:00 CET is preferred if its to be regular  - but thats pretty early for you guys still ….
10:24:34 <maxandersen> but lets see once you guys settle in.
10:24:43 <akazakov> yes, let's see
10:24:49 <maxandersen> you stay in a hotel at first or appartements already figured out ?
10:24:58 <akazakov> in a hotel
10:25:10 <maxandersen> ah - hope it has free wifi then ;)
10:25:30 <akazakov> Daniel_Azarov should know
10:25:45 <maxandersen> btw. im coming to EclipseCon and we should sync up one of those days ;)
10:26:08 <akazakov> is it in March?
10:26:23 <maxandersen> not doing any presentations nor face2face meetings so should be having enough time ;)
10:26:27 <maxandersen> yes - in march.
10:27:12 <maxandersen> #idea EclipseCon is 21-24th; Team California should meet up :)
10:27:35 <akazakov> yes it would be nice to meet you there.
10:29:12 <akazakov> And btw I would like to discuss the future of CDI/Weld/Seam 3 tools. A kind of plan for 3.3. Main features, etc.
10:29:21 <maxandersen> yup
10:30:05 <maxandersen> need to get Koen involved too since he is working on the Forge tools that utilizes all those sweet things.
10:31:17 <maxandersen> #topic 3.3 futures
10:32:02 <maxandersen> #info koen aers is working on seam forge integration that needs thinking for next rev - its like seamgen for seam 3 - just much more powerful (and also more complex in other aspects)
10:32:44 <maxandersen> #info seam 3 is very different from seam 1 or 2 ..its basically just a set of extensions for CDI - how its distributed (runtime) is still not clear to me.
10:33:29 <maxandersen> #info Seam 3 uses Solder which has some extensions we need to support to be able to pick up common components..
10:33:33 <maxandersen> #info …and more ;)
10:33:41 <maxandersen> just so we have it in the notes ;)
10:34:22 <maxandersen> once GA is out I hope to move focus on next rev (if not too many bugs and PM requests coming in ;)
10:34:43 <akazakov> btw I created a few issues in jira to support some Solder extensions. But It's a question how we should extend our cdi model to support cdi extensions..
10:34:51 <maxandersen> #info meetup at eclipsecon we can outline alot - further things also to be covered at face2face in Brno.
10:35:09 <maxandersen> akazakov: yes - something to start thinking about definitely.
10:35:49 <maxandersen> about face2face - ill be sending out a mail outlining the two possible weeks we will do it - one in april (most likely) and one in may (if april doesn't work)
10:36:39 <maxandersen> we only have limited budget so from California it will be akazakov and dgolovin which will receive the mail.
10:37:06 <akazakov> and I hope Denis will be involved in this process more since we will working in the same office. As we did in good old time ;)
10:37:13 <maxandersen> Daniel and Slava ill meet at  EclipseCon.
10:37:18 <maxandersen> akazakov: yup ;)
10:39:35 <maxandersen> VRubezhny:  - if there is budget ill try get you to Brno but can't promise anything at this point.
10:40:53 <VRubezhny> maxandersen: Will see. I'm ok to meet you & CO in Brno
10:41:19 <maxandersen> #action akazakov once you get settled in, start working on a wiki/jira to outline possible workareas and new features for Seam/CDI and we can start prioritizing/adding/removing.
10:42:04 <maxandersen> VRubezhny: yeah - but limited budget so only little chance for it at this point ;(
10:43:44 <VRubezhny> maxandersen: ok. I'll cross my fingers :)
10:43:48 <maxandersen> ;)
10:45:22 <akazakov> maxandersen: I guess a log of this chat will be available in http://irc.xam.dk/meetings/jbosstools-doc/2011 ?
10:45:33 <maxandersen> akazakov: yes
10:45:40 <maxandersen> anything else to add ?
10:45:52 <akazakov> tomorrow?
10:46:00 <maxandersen> tomorrow ?
10:46:22 <akazakov> when this log will be available?
10:46:31 <maxandersen> when i type endmeeting ;)
10:46:35 <maxandersen> #endmeeting