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Subject: Re: Full Spec of "Darwin" memory
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From: zaitcev@bogus.com (Pete Zaitcev)
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:07:51 GMT
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khansen@pluto.njcc.com (Ken Hansen) writes:
>Stephen Holmes (sholmes@atlan-tech.com) wrote:
>: Sun literature says that the memory for the Ultra 5 and 10 is
>: 168 Pin 60nS EDO JEDEC DRAM with ECC Error Correction
>: My memory catalogue says nothing about JEDEC, but offers various
>: combinations of
>: 3.3 or 5 Volt
>: Buffered, Unbuffered or Synchronous.

Take the existing DIMM so that connector is down and 
extra notch is on the left of the central notch.
Notches may be offset a little from the center between
contact rows. Offset means:

Left notch (between 20 & 60 pin sections):
 to the left:	RFU
 on center:	Buffered
 to the right:	Unbuffered

Center notch (between 60 & 88 pin sections):
 to the left:	5.0V
 on center:	3.3V
 to the right:	Reserved at the time

--Pete

From: zaitcev
Subject: summary

Aurora:	5.0V ECC Fast Page mode 60ns
Sunfire: 3.3V ECC (not EDO probably, rather FP)
Darwin:	3.3V ECC EDO Buffered 60ns
Krups, Espresso, JE-1: 3.3V no ECC, no parity, EDO Unbuffered

Thanks to Dirk Hufnagel <hufnagel@mps.ohio-state.edu>, who points out URL:
http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/Ultra10/u10technologies.html


From technofiend@gnuplanet.com Wed Mar 14 01:17:52 2001
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From: technofiend@gnuplanet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Memory for the Sunblade 100 slightly decoded
Date: 13 Mar 2001 18:24:12 -0800
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The exact Micron Part Number on my 128MB stick of memory is
MT9LSDT1672A6-133B1.

According to Micron's guide to their part numbers at
http://images.micron.com/pdf/numbering/numsdrammod.pdf
this means my machine has a 

MT  -- Micron Technology
9   -- 9 Memory component
L   -- 3.3 Volt
SDT -- SDRAM TSOP *See explanations below
16  -- 16 Deep
72  -- 72 Wide
A   -- 168 Pin unbuffered, serial presence-detect
G   -- Gold Plated DIMM
133 -- 133MHz 
B   -- Revision B
1   -- PCB Board 1

Here then is a quick list of chips to order:
128MB     MT9LSDT1672A6-133XX
256MB     MT18LSDT3272AG-133XX
512MB     MT18LSDT6472AG-133XX


So from the top this means you have a part manufactured by 
Micron Technology, if it wasn't a Micron Chip, we couldn't
use the rest of the numbers and letters to decode the chip's type
and use.


SDRAM Refers to Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory, which is
just the kind of memory being used here (the other kind in modern
use is Static Memory.)  TSOP refers to how the chips on the memory
stick are packaged and isn't really important to your or me.

Based on this information, we know we have a 128MB unbuffered
chip.  Chips can be either registered or unbuffered, what is
the difference?  The difference is how the computer interfaces
with the memory and where certain driver chips are located.
Registered and unbuffered chips are notched differently
and *cannot* be mixed. Make sure to buy unbuffered chips for
your Sunblade.

We know this is a 3.3 Volt chip, and not a 2.5 Volt chip, again
mixing parts isn't a good idea; get a 3.3 Volt chip.  2.5 Volt
chips have a 'V' where the 'L' is in our part number.

We know that is chip has ECC because Micron's part guide says
it does, and from a few other clues -- it has 9 memory components
not 8, so that 9'th chip must be for the parity.

We also know this is a CAS3 chip since the part number ends has
-133 instead of -13E. What the heck does that mean?  The quote
below was shamelessly lifted from somewhere:

CAS Latency (or just "latency") is the time it takes for the memory to output
data after receiving a read command. Latency is measured in clock cycles and
it's often noted as CAS2 or CL2 (for a latency of two clock cycles), or CAS3/CL3
(for a latency of three clock cycles).


If you really want to know more about memory, read Kingston's
Ultimate Memory Guide -- http://www.kingston.com/tools/umg/default.asp
