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Aw shucks, he probably knew that it's not the FARs that require a Radio
Station License. No siree, he would have been quick to tell you it's the
FCC's rules. Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations part 87 (Aircraft
Services) Section 87.18 (Station license required) to be exact. As a courtesy
FAA Inspectors will sometimes point that out to aircraft operators/owners if
the license is missing. But they can't/won't take any action to enforce the
FCC's rules. At least that's what we were taught in school.

Nor did we ever ask a CFI applicant about the FCC's rules during flight
checks either. Most CFI's have a hard enough time remembering the FARs let
alone other aviation rules (e.g. DOT, NTSB, FCC, EPA, etc.) <g>
--
Best Regards

Rick Cremer
ATP DC-9,MD-80/90,B-717
Flight Instructor
Ground Instructor
A&P Mechanic
Aircraft Dispatcher
Air Traffic Controller
FAA Safety Inspector (Ret.)





"C J Campbell" <christophercampbellNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Some FAA inspector was out here at Bremerton doing ramp checks. He
| complained that the planes did not have radio licenses and that the school
| did not have a master radio license. I was gone flying; I might otherwise
| have asked him to show me in the FARs where a radio license is required for
| domestic flights.
|
| --
| Christopher J. Campbell
| Certificated Flight Instructor, Instrument and Multiengine Airplane
| Port Orchard, WA
|
|




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"Rick Cremer" <rcremer@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> Aw shucks, he probably knew that it's not the FARs that require a Radio
> Station License. No siree, he would have been quick to tell you it's the
> FCC's rules. Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations part 87 (Aircraft
> Services) Section 87.18 (Station license required) to be exact. As a courtesy
> FAA Inspectors will sometimes point that out to aircraft operators/owners if
> the license is missing. But they can't/won't take any action to enforce the
> FCC's rules. At least that's what we were taught in school.
>

Well, y'all, here is what that ole 87.18 says:

§  87.18  Station license required.

(a) Except as noted in paragraph (b) of this section, stations in the
aviation service must be licensed by the FCC either individually or by
fleet.

(b) An aircraft station is licensed by rule and does not need an individual
license issued by the FCC if the aircraft station is not required by
statute, treaty, or agreement to which the United States is signatory to
carry a radio, and the aircraft station does not make international flights
or communications. Even though an individual license is not required, an
aircraft station licensed by rule must be operated in accordance with all
applicable operating requirements, procedures, and technical specifications
found in this part.



But, by gosh, I just can't find where that ole thing says my airplane has to
have a radio station license for domestic flight!  Yes siree, it's that ole
bugger the Ramp Inspection Handbook, or whatever it's rightly called, coming
into play again.  Bet it tells the inspector to look for charts, too.
