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From: thunder421@earthlink.net (Ed Rasimus)
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Subject: Re: WWII fighter turn rate/vs side
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"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"Walter Bjorneby" <waltbj@oneimage.com> wrote in message
>news:3A0B4DE9.90DC8D76@oneimage.com...
>> Dudley, I found the greatest help tp me flying the f4 to max was the solid
>> grounding I got flying the old T6(SNJ) to max under the tutelage of my
>> instructor a crop-duster pilot.
>
>I agree completely. It's very easy to lose those "basic" skills that
>contribute to a complete understanding of what's actually happening to your
>airplane at any given instant. In fact, in ACM, I've always believed that
>regardless of what you are flying, the real measure of how well you can
>handle your airplane is always found in the extreme upper left hand corner
>of the envelope, and that computes out to what you can do
>defensively....

You guys have shacked the concept for sure. I remember a friend I was
flogging T-37s with at Willie had gone up to Canada with a buddy when
the RCAF was liquidating their Harvard fleet. They each bought one (a
Canadian T-6) and brought them back to Falcon Field in Mesa AZ. 

The buddy was a KC-135 type, IPing in the T-37 and the friend was Mike
Dillon, a former crop duster, then a TWA 707 captain and now the
driving force behind Dillon Precision which makes the world's best
reloading equipment. 

Tanker bud is trying to teach "formation" flying to Dillon who's never
done it. Inevitably the formation flights degenerate into a rat-race
and Dillon soundly beats the tanker driver. Each day, tanker driver
corners me at work for a lesson in BFM. Each evening he goes out to
Falcon and flies the Harvard and loses to Dillon. 

Finally he asks me to come along for some in-flight BFM. I strap into
the back seat of the Harvard and we go out with Dillon. I get my butt
beat by Dillon repeatedly. Looking back over my shoulder watching
Dillon tracking, tracking, I see the rudder working feverishly as the
plane is always on the verge of a stall. Turning in, he works right at
the edge of the burble, then moves the nose up with rudder. Just as
it's about to depart he walks the nose back down with little loss of
back pressure and grabs a knot or two. Then back up into tracking. 

I'm humbled and amazed. 


 Ed Rasimus                  
  Fighter Pilot (ret)         
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